Madonna used a rare, reflective interview on Jay Shetty’s podcast to talk about spirituality, her late mother, and forgiving her late brother, Christopher Ciccone. She traced a straight line from a spiritual experience to letting go of a grudge against her sibling that she once thought impossible.
Describing her extensive spiritual ritual, the pop singer said the turning point came when her late brother’s illness left her hovering between worlds. Finally, it was a vision of her late mother that pushed her toward forgiveness. It ultimately led to peace with her estranged brother before he died.
Madonna recalls spiritual experience that led her to forgive her late brother in Jay Shetty podcast
Madonna recently appeared in Jay Shetty’s “On Purpose” podcast, reflecting on a spiritual encounter with her mother that led to forgiveness for her brother. The seven-time Grammy winner revealed how a long rupture with her brother hardened into resentment.
She said, “There are things that have happened to me in my life that I just thought ‘I will never forgive this person.’” However, holding on to it, she realized, was “like a kind of cancer.”
Years of silence ended when he fell ill and asked for help. “Am I going to help my enemy?” she recalled asking herself, confirming, “And I just did.” She admitted, “I felt so relieved” to be able to “be in a room with him and holding his hand, even if he was dying, and saying, ‘I love you and I forgive you.’”
Madonna linked that choice to her spiritual experience in the hospital. “My mother appeared to me and she said, ‘Do you want to come with me?’ And I said, ‘No,’” she recalled. She continued, “When I did eventually wake up, I realized that the ‘no’ was about me needing to forgive and make good with people that I still held grudges against.”
On the podcast, Madonna told Jay Shetty that the spiritual process with her late mother and brother has now filtered into new music. She said, “I wrote a song called ‘Fragile,’ which is about my brother,” adding that she also wrote “Forgive Yourself,” built around the principle, “if you can’t forgive me, forgive yourself.”
Originally reported by Ishika Mishra on RealityTea.